LIB53

Really good. And i mean that (hard to emphasize in text. Caps would make it seem like I'm screaming at you). Excellent work on the icons. I like how you put a line for every two tracks. Seemed a little odd for a couple seconds but then it kicked in that it makes playlists look so clean. I did find one very tiny problem. The bold text makes the menus resize sometimes. I dunno if that's really an issue. but it bothered a little bit. Anyways, it's still a good skin.

LIB53

Hi there. I couldn't help but notice some things while i was using this feather. Firstly, i like this skin, so don't think i'm listing why it's bad (it's not) because i'm listing stuff that could improve.

1)The default album art has sharp pixelly edges that turn out very sharp and ugly when scaled (which happens in many of the media views)

2)The text in menus are a little hard to read. They don't need to be much brighter, but just a little. Maybe you could add 20 to each rgb value (you are using RGB for colors right?). That might do it.

3) Being the detail freak that i am, i can't help but notice that search box has a few errors. It seems that bg-text-input is still mapped for the .search-go-button element.

4)the unselected state of tabs (not the media tab, the web ones) have a little light grey in the corners. It doesn't necessarily look bad, but i notice it when the page turns dark grey. Nothing big though.

Now I'm still waiting for that update :P

ValentinDREAN

Hey! Best feather ever seen there! But still some little details missing, with the addons concerts, releases, and when you have to set an automatic password on a website..
I'll post another one if I find something else missing.
Great again!

LIB53

I don't have time today, but i will show you what I'm talking about in more detail later. Btw, nice pure player layout.

LIB53

This might explain things in more detail. Actually, i find my picture a bit confusing, so if you have any question, go ahead and ask. :)

LIB53

I forget to say something: awesome pure player layout.

deOmega

Verso,

This is really a very nice and sophisticated looking feather. Is it possible to give the top border a bit more definition, so that it could be seen more easily? Against some backgrounds, it is tough to see where the top margin is of songbird.so I would inadvertently click on other programs. Maybe just do something with that fine line across the top.

May I also suggest a richer background for album art in mediaflow, so that they stand out more than the background? It seems as though the background color chosen for the album art in media flow is a bit too light. However, it could be because I am accustomed to other dark feathers, but thought I would offer the suggestion anyway for consideration.

And finally, is it possible to make the lyrics font a bit smaller so that one does not have to scroll to read each lyric?

I suppose I said mouthful :)

deOmega

Verso,

Thank you very much. I really like all the changes you have made.

I know you have not finished skinning all the areas, so will just be patient. Please remember to update the background for Grid View also.. http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/1574

If i was going to be picky, i would say the blue 'thingies' lol . . .that you have covering the close and minimize etc buttons, could have a bit more definition as they make this old man think it is his blurry eye sight, but it is not a big deal as is, once i get accustomed it won;t be an issue for sure :). Additionally, they are the only things on the theme that is blurry, so they look somewhat out of place, though I like the idea of having them there.

Thanks for your work and open mindset.

Hiromacu

@verso: Great job man. I like these clear, smooth surfaces. Only two things:
- volume min/max buttons are a little bit big,
- the reverse neon gradiation of the browser-tab when I click on it a little bit disturbing.
Yet a superb feather! :) :P

deOmega

verso,

You should make a Firefox theme like this :) .. this has to be one of the top themes imo, and I am a fan of many of them, including some made by Atreiu and Hiromacu. But this is simply... NICE.

Hiromacu

@verso: Oh man thank you now it perfect! :) Sorry I didn't want to offend you. Maybe I used an incorrect word ('disturbing'), My English isn't the best. :P
I have some other remarks (I hope you don't mind):
- looks like you supported the Pane Buttons add-on however still remained at least two unskilled buttons (Album View and Griddy media buttons)
- there are missing some useful add-ons supporting (for example: Details, Music Recommendations, New Tab Button)
- the hover effect is missing on the add-on selection menu of the panes (sidebar, bottom pane, coverart pane)

Oh yes...I forgot to tell you last time. Your media control buttons (play/pause etc.) are simply and solely brilliant like your LyricMaster style. The whole feather is very aesthetic. ;) :P

deOmega

Nice work Verso. Please keep it up. The updates are definitely welcome and expected seeing that the feather is so new.

I have been pondering whether the text in the menu, library header (artist, track number etc), right-click menu and other areas containing that shade of text is a bit too dark. It seems to resemble being grayed out, so one has to be familiar with the menus to know if it is really grayed out or not, without looking closer.. I have also pondered if it could just be the same shade as the service pane, which is certainly much lighter.

phoinox1289

You listen to good music and thanks for including a pure player skin, It always feels empty when you have a great skin but can't switch to pure player with it.

deOmega

Thank you :)
I like the way the menu area is segmented, but not sure about guessing the menu item. :(

phoinox1289

I just noticed a few things that seem funny, granted I am pretty picky.

• I don't like the black square that covers the File, edit, controls, ect. it looks like a text box to me and doesn't seem to add anything ascthetically
• The icon from the search bar isn't on the edge of the search bar which is a little awkward
• Could you make an icon for the releases add-on, I realize this is new so you haven't skinned everything yet, I just thought I would make the request

Still the best skin out there.

Hiromacu

@verso: Hi. I'm just want to give voice to the hidden menu items. I don't like it. These is what I don't like in Q4 feather too. :P

Keep up the good work! :)

deOmega

verso

I just wanted to make sure you did not misunderstand me about the color of the text. Just making sure you know I was referring to more than just the menu title, but sub menu etc. Depending on what one is doing at the time, it can be difficult to differentiate between what is grayed out and what is not.

Regardless, with due respect to others, I should let you know that this has become my absolute favorite feather. This is the first one to totally replace YABS as my main.

deOmega

@verso,

No problem. You really do not have to do anything more, but just wanted to make sure that you understood my rambling :)

Sorry that I did not pick up the subtle changes :(

Again, Thank you.

Hiromacu

@verso: Oh thank you so much to changed back the main menu!
Some suggestions:
- 1st: in the main menu maybe it would be better if you could remove the hover effect over a disabled item
- 2nd: text area background color is too bright, it should be the same like the location bar
- 3rd: there are couple of texts in the option with bright white color, a bit darker would be better
- 4th: in the options window the selected tab on the left should the same like any other selection (neon blue) instead of italic-bold letter style
- 5th: the pane icons in the view main menu would be better in darker color (like in my Camouflage feather)

The background color of tabs and the buttons (black) now much more better than was before (white). I noticed you changed the windows buttons too (mini player, minimize, maximize, exit), now they're smaller. Not bad. :)

That's it for today. :D

ihavnoclue

Love the skin!
I like how it is being continuously updated keep it up!
I like the arrow showing where in the song it is instead of just a line
Also can't wait until you do the mini player thats the one I use most often.

Hiromacu

@verso: Oh yes! That's it what I spoke about before! You're the man! I love this feather!!! Except the bright texts in the option window (3rd suggestion). But wow it's awesome!
Did you changed the media tab? Now there's a gradiation from right to left, I don't know what was before. That's looks great!! :)
There's an other suggestion:
- In the Pure Player mode you should collapse the resizers:

#pureview_resizer_left {
  visibility: collapse;
}
#pureview_resizer_right {
  visibility: collapse;
}

Because your skin has a fixed size, unresizeable.
Cheers!! :P

deOmega

Verso...

Thank you. Excellent..

Honestly... Great adjustments. I am sure you will find little things to tweak as we go along, but as of now, I am absolutely pleased. Hiromacu will keep you straight :) ...I like how he helps out with his feedback to developers, and his experience surely is a plus.

ihavnoclue

Verso I have a suggestion for the miniplayer
when you are making it I would make the volume control longer than it is in the current blackfuzz one

ihavnoclue

Also I just noticed the lyricmaster skin and it is AWESOME
I also like how unlike in Aero Bird Pro another one of my favorites you can read what scrolling_lyric says

Hiromacu

@deOmega: Thank you very much your kind words! I just try to help as best as I can! :)

@verso: Some other suggestions:
- you have to do something with the background color and/or text color of 'Downloads' window
- need to change the color of version text on 'About songbird...' window

#version_number .textbox-input-box {
  color: #****** !important;
}

:P

ihavnoclue

Thanks! I like it.
The play button is insteresting. Very different from the one in the main skin.
For the volume bar just to clarify I meant the one in the mini player.
For the miniplayer I like the effect you put on the bar showing the position in song but you might want to consider making it a bit brighter so its easier to see.

Also in the main view I'm not a bug fan of the blue surrounding the search provider icon when in a webpage.

Great job on the whole skin!

phoinox1289

I'm not seeing the releases icon you mention, I still get the normal cd icon.

deOmega

Loving all the enhancements. I must say though, I am not sure I agree with the style of the search window. I think the search bar should reflect the same or similar style as the media progress window bar, Top pane buttons etc. This style of the search bar is kinda by itself... and oversize.

 I like what you did to the tab, as in making it more rectangular. Its previous form was a tad of an annoyance to me.

This feather is truly sexy. :), and the little enhancements keep making it even sexier.

(Yes, I know I am just speaking of a feather)

I hope you give some thought to rolling in another accent besides Blue when you are finished with this, but would not like you to have too many of one thing to over-saturate. I remember asking atreiu about something like that, to which he was supposed to be working on something more dynamic.

fabs303

yeah i have noticed the make over. nice, like the tabs better
beautifull :)

phoinox1289

that was were I was looking, and I still don't see it in the recent updates.

ihavnoclue

I loce the new search bar enhancements

deOmega

Me too, loving the search bar and everything else.

Hey, one little nag .. in the addons window, .. tools/ addons.. there is this simply nagging white area at the bottom, just above 'ok' and 'cancel', that is unskinned.

Thanks, and keep up the good work.

deOmega

No Problem Verso, here you go:

http://i30.tinypic.com/b5nwi1.jpg

deOmega

@verso

That did it. :).. thank you very much

StormtrooprDave

Wow this is just awesome! Best skin by far.

pastorleader

Awesome skin! Thanks for your dedication to make the improvements your users suggest. This skin can be better if you add a blue highlight bar through your menus and make the print on the menus more legible so that the text is readily discernible. Add these changes and I believe you'll have the best skin I've used including those in Firefox, Chrome, Safari, IE, Opera, several others. Waiting to see your response.

deOmega

I have to agree with pastorleader about this: "...and make the print on the menus more legible so that the text is readily discernible"

You see, I am accustomed to it now and so, I am okay, but, I have pointed others to this feather and that is the one complaint i hear, that they cannot read the lettering easily. It is sad that I usually have to tell them to give it a chance and their eyes would adjust to it lol. Please also remember that a lot of us are older :)

So, I have to agree that lightening up the text color in the menus may help a bit.. does not have to be too bright, but enough to see without re-focusing one's eyes. I think the shade of the text in the service pane would be just fine on the menu. Any reason they are different? Thanks again for your hard work.

deOmega

also, just in case you have not seen, please check out this comment by NickM about Ne+... though his comment is 14 days old at this time. :).. you may have already addressed, but I have no understanding of what he is referring to.

http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/1572

deOmega

@verso

You are most welcome.

With me being limited technologically, I may have come up short understanding :)... however, I thought I would give an image anyway, as well as some feedback:

If the rounded borders are creating the problem, then looking at the image below, i would say that they do not seem that significant, so maybe you could move away from that feature. From your image, it indeed seems like the culprit.

Now, please look at the numbered differences, just in case you have no idea what they may look like on someone else's pc or a windows Vista machine, I thought i would post, just for general information:

http://i25.tinypic.com/9lfw29.jpg

I like 3 and 4 :). Realize that I like the idea of the subtle impact of this theme, and so would not want you to have too bright text...but especially for most first time users, the shade of the other texts may just be a challenge, and so they may move away.

All that said... as I said before, absolutely sexy feather.

alad

First of all: Ne+ is my favourite theme... awesome! It's a 5 stars theme for me...

My honest opinion about medium and pure player: the medium player is ok... I like it.
Not the same for the pure player... besides, the volume bar is too close to the "song box"
(yes, my english is quite bad... :)

However... great work verso. Regards

deOmega

ah, thank you. SO much better. I suppose the areas #5 such as pointed out in image above does not need it as much? Either case, this is a magnificent improvement from my perspective :).. The pleasure continues :)

alad

Wow... very fast update! You are a serious Songbird developer ;)

A little suggest: you might also consider to make the play/rewind/forward buttons (and the others) of the Main player more "neon-tech"! :) I mean: something similar to the respective buttons of the Medium player (I love it)... What do you thing? It would be interesting to know the views of other users...

As said deOmega... The pleasure continues :)

deOmega

lol, ...and I hate to keep chiming in on others' ideas, but I have also been debating that as well... the pureplayer's 'play' button just makes one want to play and pause, as they look so nice and enticing...not so much on the main player buttons (1 in image), in relation to the overall theme...

I have been looking at a few things on that bottom bar.. but I am honestly not sure what to suggest, other than maybe they need to look more crisp and richer... more black involved.
I am pretty sure this will be my last nag :).... I really cannot find flaw in anything else besides the play area.

I am including an image for clarity, because I am likely to call things by the wrong names. Note: By itself, each element looks fantastic in that image, and one may ask.. what are they whining about? :)

http://i29.tinypic.com/ipp3wm.jpg

They do have the same hint of blue that is in the perfectly done scroll bars, but...maybe they need something more.
The other thing is the volume slider (2), I like the arrow/jet-with-streamer idea, but the fuzziness of the edge of the streamer may be off too.

Now, if you look at #3... it is almost impossible to see when it indicates shuffle 1 as opposed to all...but with that said, it is not much better on the default skin either :)

Verso, thank you again. I appreciate you putting up with my picking. If you do not make another change I will likely be just as happy. Thank you for your hard work, and I certainly wish I could do what you are doing.

Take care of yourself.
Carlisle

deOmega

Thank you.. made a mistake posting my name earlier :)... Anyway, I vote for those changes overwhelmingly.. but I hope others comment :)

deOmega

sorry, the lines for the pause and likely play buttons could possibly be a half-hair thicker (Yes, half hair lol), for more visibility.

deOmega

Sorry again... really thought I was finished.

your scale in that image may be smaller than normal, so in that case, maybe the lines thickness is fine. As a gauge, the thickness used in the pure-player looks fine.

deOmega

Verso,
looks VERY good to me... thank you for all of your hard work. Very much appreciated here.
No comments left on my end.

Take care of yourself as I look forward to your future works.

pastorleader

8/23/09, 11:58 p.m.

Great job!
You, and not too many others, are devoted to excellence! You respond faster, better, and with more detail than any I've viewed or reviewed. Top notch skin!
Keep up the excellent, dedicated, selfless work!

alad

Great and fast job, VERSO... looks very good to me, too. You're right: is exactly the style what I had in mind for the buttons...

I really appreciate your work... Thank you

killed

I always like your changes, but i think you forgot something on this latest update. the window buttons aren't skinned, and I'm missing the button that minimizes to my miniplayer. so if you could fix just that, it would be wonderful.

deOmega

hi, if it is worth anything, I am not able to see what killed is referring to. I am indeed curious.

Also, i like each update. I do not know if you realize that if one is browsing in another tab and clicks on the library tab, it then becomes blue. No complaint either way, but just making sure you were aware.

I am running windows Vista 32 bit

deOmega

I did not have more gonzo installed and I had not for a while because I thought I was having some issues with it and really was fine with pure player and the mini, to where more gonzo did not seem necessary to me.

However, I installed more gonzo and immediately after your feather loaded for the first time, the one button to switch media view button launched late, but nonetheless repopulated and has not been an issue since. I suppose if someone has a slower machine, it may be missing a tad longer to be more noticeable. Having said all of that, it may have been part of a normal process.

I see what you mentioned about alternate view and they all seem to fit your description and apparent expectations. So, in short, no problem here.

deOmega

Hi Verso,

At your leisure, could you please e-mail me at: jahkae at yahoo dot com? Just have a few questions to ask you.

Thanks in advance.

ihavnoclue

I love this skin!
A minor suggestion some elements are animated which I like how about adding a little bit more change on mouseover of the play, next, previous buttons.

ihavnoclue

@verso it looks a better now, it just needed a bit more pop.

ihavnoclue

Sorry for the double post,
Also Im not sure if this is because of the skin or not but when I got to edit metadata on a song and go to the advanced tab all of the information that you are not able to edit (bit rate for example) is black on black so you have to select it to read it.

deOmega

Hi Verso,

I can also see that problem.. Thank you again.

http://i37.tinypic.com/2ex4sux.jpg

deOmega

Nice enhancements, love what you have done with Lyric Master.

You know, as you continue to perfect this feather, then you will find some things become a tad noticeable to the picky eye. and trust me, this is truly being picky....Those things I am referring to are some the icons, such as the blue down arrow next to 'download' .. .... anyway, that icon for example, I do not think is as crisp as it probably could be.. seems a little blurry.

I thought there may have been others, but that is the only one i can observe or think of now.

deOmega

Sorry about the multiple posts... But finally, I have been wondering if you left the hints/tips in these colors on purpose this on purpose.

http://i35.tinypic.com/2q8njiv.jpg

deOmega

awesome :) .... as usual, thank you very much.

deOmega

Personally, I like very much, but the refresh bar threw me off... I thought it was a nav button. :)

Could I beg you if possible, to save your samples images in .png as opposed to .jpeg format, so that we could see crisply what would really be reality? :)

deOmega

So much better, thank you... can the play control buttons (play, pause, next, previous), be done crisp as well? This image certainly shows me exactly how they will look on the player.

ihavnoclue

Loving the skin as usual,
I like that second solution! Also you've been adding small animations for some items I was just thinking the refresh button might be a good place for another one.

And yes the advanced tab is from power tools.

ihavnoclue

Oh and sorry for the double post but the colors you chose in that solution dont seem to match those used in the player controls, you might consider making them darker?

boosh

can you skin the last.fm buttons ;-) thanks verso!

deOmega

Thank you. Very nice update.

RD777

Great add-on thanks! Altho one question do you think you could make one with green colour instead of blue? That would be great. Thx

RD777

Great add-on thanks! Altho one question do you think you could make one with green colour instead of blue? That would be great. Thx

divine_infekt

Dude, I just got another update for the skin and beneath the lastfm love- & bann track and the tag icon, there are 4 stars! Like the rating stars. I think you've got to fix that. :)
but besides that... it's still my favorite skin and I've tried so many... but this is THE BEST. ^-^

divine_infekt

I mean FEATHER... >-<

klint

@verso
Magnificent feather
Yet it does not render equally on both my computers, as I must miss some fonts on one of them.
Could you tell me which are the fonts used by your feathers, so that I can install them?
Thanks

klint

Thanks verso, it worked!

klint

@verso
just noticed a couple of missing bits in Ne+ related to CDRip:
- the icon for successful rip near a track is not there
- the background of the block on the top where the CDRip button is located is white. is it on purpose?
Thanks

Simon

Hey there - looks good.

I don't have the patience (or knowledge) to get everything looking just right, as you featherers do!

I was pleased to see that sleepTimer seems properly aligned with the other faceplate elements - I spent a lot of time trying to get that right for sleepTimer's default look but I couldn't do it- what was the the trick?

I would like to apply the fix to sleepTimer's default CSS.

Cheers.

boosh

just a little more left:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/satisfaction-production/s3_images/112472/ne.png
then its 1.0 in my book ;-)

boosh

Looks good! Thanks!

deOmega

uh oh, the menu items became unskinned in the last update it seems. as in the drop down window from file, edit etc.

deOmega

No problem. It is still not working for me, but that is okay. I have not installed any new addons lately either. Additionally, I will ignore it for now, as I will be clean installing windows 7 on all our pcs this weekend, so, will want to start over anyway.

Thank you

deOmega

yeah, I think that something is broken in my songbird, because it is now happening with other feathers.

So... the re-install should address that.

ziggypink

beautiful beautiful =] i love this feather
but i think i found a small bug....the On tour column says;
http://songbirdnest.com/data/1.0#artistOnTour, instead of just 'On Tour' & also when i tried to make a smart playlist using the On Tour option, it forces me to choose one of the instances 'contains/does not contain/is/is not' etc which then stops the playlist from containing any songs.
but other than that, i love it <3

ziggypink

my mistake, mustve been a small glich on my machine, it seems fine now ive restarted songbird =]

boosh

@deOmega: its sleepTimer

deOmega

yes!!.. Thanks boosh, I disabled it and the problem indeed was corrected.. i have had sleep timer for a while though, so I suppose it is from the recent update? Anyway, again, thank you.

boosh

For anyone looking for a good Ubuntu theme to go with Ne+, get T3K (requires aurora). It comes with the GTK theme and emerald windows! And looks awesome!

deOmega

hi Verso,

I was thinking that maybe something could be done to the current browsing tab or so, to just make it a bit more obvious that a browsing tab is open. I actually had a web site tab opened for a long time without realizing it.. it blended in too well... for a few days :)

benng2

@Verso

Very... very... very Good !
I love this feature and in full screen mode he gives to my computer a really look of Music Center. Exactly what I've searched. Thank you.

boosh

Thanks for Purple Rain Update! I love how you made the display panes flow into the UI like how you had the Service Pane splitters.
Opening and closing the display panes though seem to be hard on the bird. They're really slow and choppy compared to Purple Rain. I assume cause you have more images surrounding them?? Cause the Service Pane has always been choppy when resizing for me even before the update.
Also it doesn't look like you have Bug 18251 changes in your css cause scrolling seems a bit slower too.
For the custom toolbar buttons, like in Chromibird, you have to change all the dimensions from 16x16 to 20x23.. I didn't redo all my Pane Buttons ones, since atreiu has been missing for soo long :( But The rest I did. In Komodobird and Purple Rain you'll see them cut off and such cause the addon authors have to update their images for 1.4.
Ok thats enough for now, Thanks!!!

seba_kerckhof

Looking very nice in 1.4.1. There's a nice balance between flashy colors and sober colors.

boosh

O those are borders.. huh, thats really cool how you did that with borders! I'll have a look at your code and see if i can come up with something.

Hiromacu

@verso: Wow great job man! Although unfortunately there's a big problem! Almost all when I close album art pane, it bounces several times till finally closes. It doesn't happen with Purple Rain feather. :P

boosh

What I've noticed is that closing/opening the display panes are completely fine when using the web browser. But once you are in the library view, it is a tad choppy. Its weird cause they both use those 10px borders.. So i guess its conflicting with resizing properties in the library view somehow.

boosh

And if i keep opening and closing it, i don't notice the choppiness as much, lol, dang placebo effect. But its probably a little more noticeable on slow computers.

Hiromacu

@verso: The pane closes then suddenly opens and closes, opens etc. rapidly many times till it closes finally.
Looks like it happens only during playing a track. Now it happens just occasionally. Interesting...
In Purple Rain it didn't happen when I tested.

deOmega

@verso
Thank you for the updates as well.. My problem at this moment is the time and artist columns.. somehow, in purple rain, there is a space between the two, whereas in ne+, there is no space, so eg, it appears like this: 5:15Alicia Keys, as opposed to 5:15 Alicia Keys

deOmega

:).. thank you. I am okay waiting for the update.
You know...would be nice if someone can revive Atreiu's addons. bummer :(
You seem to handle feathers the same way he does and with such similar humility that at one point I wondered if you guys were really the same person :)

deOmega

It's all grown up. 1.0. Congrats. :)

ihavnoclue

Could you add support for the WindowShade addon? It would be cool if you just made it the old skinnier miniplayer (before purplerain)
Thanks

ihavnoclue

Also I like how the display panes seem really built in except the bottom one doesn't there is a small bar that I think looks out of place
Also on both the left an right sides in full screen mode there are white lines at the edge of the screen.
Here is a screenshot http://i47.tinypic.com/2rw3ng1.jpg

azimov

Awesome!!! Thanks

ihavnoclue

My OS is Windows 7 64bit

saucywombat

Hi verso,
Is there any way I change the font of Ne+, as some of it is hard to read? Also, in List View, there are lines in between every two songs. Any way I can change that?

Hiromacu

@verso: I fixed that image problem using Web Developer thanks! :)

About your Ne+ feather: I found a problem in your feather's Mini Player. This new mini player got a new resizing behavior. When you resize it to smaller, after a minimal size the rations box is closes and if you continue to resize the player to smaller the faceplate will be close too. So in this minimized size of your Ne+'s mini player, resizing area on the right size is disappears. In this case you are unable to resize it back. Only thing you can do to switch to an other feather what doesn't contains this problem (like default one).

You are changed the size of something (maybe the volume slider) and the smallest size is too small now.

leoperbo

Excelent feather! Just what I was looking for combine with Ubuntu's Dust theme.

Thank you!

DustinPaluch

hey, check out this image:
http://grab.by/1z3y
When I'm using the mini player, the little [+] icon doesn't do anything when I click on it, and whats more, the alt text says "switch to mini player". =\

Otherwise, I love this feather. It's a direct contender with YABS, in my opinion.

boosh

Yo, I gotta comment about the miniplayer problem on Gonzo2 too.. And there's a bug filed for it: 19547, I thought it was a WindowShade problem, but even after an uninstall, it still persists, so i have no clue whats goin on, especially how its off and on??

boosh

I think it might have been my fault. Mixing a custom XUL Mainplayer, plus standard purplerain mini gets the order of Mini/Main mixed up for other feathers apparently? woops.

DustinPaluch

verso: version 1.0.2.2 fixes it. Thanks! As for the wallpaper, I'm glad you asked.
It's called Golden Noise:
http://webdiod.deviantart.com/art/Golden-Noise-200287
It's my favorite wallpaper, I've had it forever, and I don't think I'll ever change it.

Symphonic

Hi there verso, first of all I <3>_< which makes the dark scroll bar button pretty much invisible. Also if you want, add a touch of blue neon to it when your dragging the scroll bar button for more eye candy ~_~ (BTW if the scroll bar button looks doesn’t look too dark for you when viewing this site, it could be just be my monitor & graphics settings, so forget about it if your fine with it)
I hoped that made sense, Cheers

Symphonic

^^^Damn failed first post >< sorry about that (I think I typed too much)

Hi there verso, first of all I <3 the feather d^_^b I’ve got a few suggestions although I’m not sure if it has already been suggested :S

1. The border around the “Media Views” maybe you could trim them down bit or completely remove them, like the default purple rain feather so it’s even more minimalistic

Symphonic

2. When in web browser tab maybe you could make the colour of the “scroll bar button” lighter, like the scroll up & down buttons. As some web pages have a bright background, like this site for example >_< which makes the dark scroll bar button pretty much invisible. Also if you want, add a touch of blue neon when your dragging the scroll bar button for more eye candy ~_~ (BTW if the scroll bar button looks doesn’t look too dark for you when viewing this site, it could be just be my monitor & graphics settings, so forget about it if your fine with it)

I hoped that made sense, Cheers

Symphonic

@ verso
Hi again, maybe for the “border” you could do a poll for it, idk :S by putting up a link where users could vote. Preview pictures of border vs. borderless(or trim down) could help.

I’ve got 1 more suggestion, it’s about the “search box”. Atm it’s very hard to see the search engine that you have currently selected without clicking the search button because of its black text over the dark background. So maybe you could change the black text to a lighter blue colour. I think making it the same blue as when you have clicked on the search box & that blue background appears would be cool. Although I’m not sure how exactly it will look, so you decide on the text colour if it doesn’t look too good ^_^

Also when typing in the search box I think black or darker text will look clearer than the current white text over the blue background.

Thanks for listening to my suggestions

ulisseshr

Incrível!!! Perfeito!!!

Symphonic

Wow that was quick ^_^, I did a cut & paste for the borderless version in paint so don’t laugh :p http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3951/neborderless.jpg

Well it still looks good to me, plus there isn’t any wasted pixels but let’s see if other users like it or not first :S

Azazel90x

Verso, Im going crazy here lol, Do you have a windows 7 visual style of NE+? Ive searched high and low, and I cant seem to find anything! I love your NE+ theme so much, I want it on my Windows 7 and Firefox! I want my whole system to be NE+!!! Many Thanks! :D

Symphonic

@ verso

Yep that’s exactly what I wanted to suggest, hopefully everyone likes it :S

Symphonic

@ verso

Awesome, thank you so much ^_^ \m/ I got another suggestion, it’s about the 2 “Display Pane bars” on the right & on the bottom. I’m not really sure how to tackle this one, you could try to either:

- Somehow trim the bars down, while still maintaining the “Content Pane Options” & “The Show/Hide Pane” arrow buttons

- Auto-hide it to a slim version of the bar where there are no arrow buttons. If that’s possible & doesn’t make the GUI or songbird too laggy

Then it will be all sweet, I feel like I’m putting songbird on a diet lol >_<

Symphonic

@ verso

Thanks for the codes. The trim down bar looks very neat IMO although the arrow buttons are a little harder to click so auto-hide might be a better approach. Hmm for the auto-hide jumpy problem, is it possible to make it appear only after you have hover your mouse over it for a few milliseconds?

I tried playing with the code a bit, “0px” doesn’t seem to make those borders disappear >_< So I'm further in need of your magic, is it possible to auto-hide into border-less?

Thanks again

Symphonic

Woot, I’m glad that you like the thin content border as well. Hmm the code you gave me above actually hides the entire right display pane :/ oh well it doesn't matter

Anyway from what you have said, it looks like that you can’t gain any more useful space from auto-hide borderless as you will always need an area to hover from. So 5 pixels width will be good enough then ^_^ I’ve found that 4px on the bottom rather than 5px seems to look better IMO.

Also if you could hide the arrow button “Content Pane Options” for the right pane in auto-hide slim mode then the GUI will be pretty much perfect, visually + usability. Usability is usually what a lot of minimalistic themes lack off but NE+ isn’t so kudos to you.

Function over form!

ihavnoclue

I don't know when this was changed but I just noticed that the top bar showing current position in the song is a lot lighter than it used to be. Its now baby blue. I think it looked better before.

Hiromacu

@verso: I just read your comment on BirdTabs' page about the text problem across display pane splitter.

You can collapse it in your feather, 'cause that text is pretty useless on the right sidebar display pane.

#displaypane_right_sidebar_splitter #splitter-label {
  visibility: collapse !important;
}

:)

deOmega

Hi Verso,

Is that large view above a partial capture of the main player, or is that some sort of new layout option? Excuse my ignorance if applicable :)

deOmega

yes.. the large screen shot on this page. No bugs in the program at all, everything is fine for me. Thank you.

Hiromacu

@verso: I have a problem. I'm just installed 'Miniplayer Jump To' add-on to see how does it look in my feathers, but the jump to button didn't show up. So I decided to check it with your Ne+ but still no success. I checked your screenshots but I don't see any jump to button on Mini Player however there are lines in your Ne+'s feather.css about an icon-jumpto.png (line 2355-2364). Does 'Miniplayer Jump To' add-on work at you or not? I'm confused.

Symphonic

Hey verso

It’s looking good no complaints about the update, yet… ^_^ If it keeps going well after awhile I think you should just change the content browser to borderless rather than 2px. I don’t think people will realise the change anyway & it makes it look neater as the content browser & the side display pane will line up.

The splitters are more acceptable now but could be even better if its thinner. Maybe try 7px wide for the left splitter & 6px wide for the bottom splitter. And see if you like it as well

Anyway, Take care

Symphonic

Hi verso, I’m back with more suggestion ^_^ It’s about the Library/Playlist pane on the left. I was thinking if you can give it the same function as the right display pane, allowing it to fully collapse to the edge.

You could add a button on the border allowing it to quickly show or hide in one click like the right side display pane. But doing so you might have to make the border a bit wider so it’s more clickable :/ Or just simply allow it to be drag to the edge & hide.

Cya